Monday, March 30, 2009

Motion to Stay to be Heard/strange e-mail

The Motion to Stay hearing, was moved from last Thursday (March 26, 2009) to tomorrow (March 31, 2009),before Judge Carol Hackett Garagiola

I was forced into a hearing on March 20, 2009, without and attorney, Mr. Jentzen had withdrawn on March 7,2009. The hearing was intimidating;- I had put in a Motion of Stay prior to the hearing, since my attorney had withdrew – but the motion submitted into court had been ignored.

The Motion of Stay had been submitted in court the week prior to the March 20, 2009 hearing, and scheduled to be heard on March 26,2009. There had been no response from Mr. Skousen objecting to the motion into court, and only smugness during the March 20, 2009 hearing.

Last Thursday, when the Motion was to be heard, Mr. Skousen had not responded.

As posted in an earlier blog, the Judge and FOC, had meet the night before the Friday, March 20, 2009 hearing and stated the hearing was to proceeded before the FOC; even with the Motion of Stay scheduled to be heard.

The strangest e-mail came through the e-mail today. I had to cut and paste it was from Mr. Skousen (March 30, 2009). Below is the e-mail.

TO: Elaine Brown
CC: P.C. Sue A. Hamilton
Monday, March 30, 2009 5:04:38 PM
I am in Korea and heard from my wife (Janice Eudis Nielsen Skousen) about a hearing scheduled for 4PM on the 31st of March requesting a 120 day stay. Because I am in Korea I have been unable to respond on this matter. Can you forward this response to Judge Garagiola just so the court understands my postion. I understand that since I will not be there and can not afford an attorney at this time that the matter may be defaulted to the plaintiff's request.

I will send a copy with my scanned signature later today (during your night).

I appreciate the help.

Samuel J. Skousen
1 248 504 4548 (this number will reach me in Korea)

Mr. Skousen, the hearing was originally scheduled for last Thursday, March 26, 2009. You had not even responded to the Motion of Stay on March 20, 2009, which you had already recieved served prior to March 20, 2009. I was forced into a hearing with you-- without and attorney, or my file! And you weep tears you are out of the country now, you are in Korea and you can not respond. What were you doing when you were in Michigan those several weeks?

Something is strange about the whole thing, there was no rushed e-mail last Thursday when the Motion of Stay was initially scheduled to be heard, but was cancelled because the Judge was ill. There was nothing put into court since you were first notified and served,weeks prior about the Motion of Stay. The Stay was filed in court weeks ago, while you were in the States.

Something strange is going on, and has been -

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Friday, March 27, 2009

I hired an Alliance Defense Fund Attorney/Web Search and Bank Account

Updated ---

Mr. Steven Jentzen to date has not put in his withdrawal in court, after notifying me on the 9th of March, he was withdrawing from the case; at least it did not appear on the Register of Actions when I checked yesterday. The Motion of Stay was not heard, after waiting for awhile at court, I was told the Judge was ill and had cancelled court hearings for the day, the motion was re-scheduled for next Tuesday.

The web search has been interesting to watch. Below (the Northville Ward info) has disappeared from a google search which Is this a Christan Thing to Do had been listed under, but appears in a Yahoo search; however, "Is This a Christian Thing to Do" does not appear in a Yahoo in a search. -- (*it is now back up under google search and Janice's facebook is now showing; one will not see our youngest son on her facebook; he has his own story to tell of the abuse in the Skousen Family, and how people are forced to submit, or their life destroyed.).

" Janice Skousen ---Members - The Northville Ward Relief Society Enrichment Groups (Novi ...
Meet other local Mormons to discuss God, religion and what is means to be a Latter Day Saint. ... Meetup Groups are today's support groups, ... Janice Skousen " - Cached"

I sat across from Janice Eudis Nielsen Skousen in a meeting a few weeks ago, and asked her why they were running a bank account in my name which was being sent to her address on Bramley Court, New Hudson, Michigan. I have never lived on Bramley Court and never in New Hudson, Michigan. I had been unaware they had a bank account in my name going to their house. Bank deposits, a U.S. Treasury income tax return of over $14,000.00, many deposits over $8,000.00, others of $14,000.00 and various amounts; many deposited within weeks, sometimes days, of each other. I had found out about the account by accident. Janice Skousen, fluttered and twittered and said she was Samuel Skousen's wife, and it was her husbands business, then smiled coyly and stated the account was now in her name along with her husband. Then why did they keep a bank account with my name on it?
Strange, most strange.

The account in my name had been going to her home for over four-five years, I never knew my name was listed on a Bank account going to their home -- Mr. Skousen and I had not been married for ten years! I gave no permission.

Half truths told. Mr. Skousen had lied about me for years, supported by his family. He told misleading and false stories like, how he was 'forced' to sleep in the basement, failing to say he had taken his son's place. Our son had felt he was too old to share a bedroom with his youngest brother, and put his bed in the basement - he wanted a room of his own, like our eldest daughter had upstairs in our home. His sister, did not have to share with her younger sisters, had a phone of her own, and Dad bought her a new (about 1 and 1/2 year old) car, which we made payments on; her phone bills to her friends and boyfriend ran several hundreds of dollars a month to close to a thousand dollars in a month time - even rude comments were not unusual and made; when a boy, she met at a mormon college and became engaged to, came to stayed at our home one summer. I was told "if I wanted help cleaning the home, to hire a maid". I had asked for help carrying groceries in the home, when I was running late for work. I was raised everyone helped with cleaning the home and chores, not only Mom.

Our son, had to buy a old car off his dad, one given to his father. The basement was unfinished, and cold. Our son came down sick, Mr. Skousen would turn the down the heat very low at night; it would freeze in the basement. As much as my son and I tried to beg Mr. Skousen to turn up the heat at night, he refused. I also asked Mr. Skousen, if he would build a room for our son downstairs, but he was too busy.

My son had become very ill, and we discussed why his father could not understand, and suggested his father take his place, to experience what he was allowing his own son to go through. . I suggested to Mr. Skousen to sleep a night or two downstairs to see what his son was experiencing. My husband defamed me before our divorce and after, he told he forced into the basement by me, never telling the whole story -- when all he did was to take his own son's place - a son he was allowing to become ill.

I know my girls took a fall, and were used as front people, becoming the "fall guys", and were put up to do some very cruel things; one day Samuel Skousen will need to step forward and be honest - as well as the Skousen Family- there are no halo's in the Skousen family. Janice Eudis Nielsen Skousen has her own motives.

[* * Joel Skousen, on Janice Skousen’s facebook, -- is not one of our sons, he more than likely is the youngest son of Mr. Skousen's brother, Jay Payne Skousen and his wife Jan Skousen. (yes, there are two Jan's in the Skousen family) Mr. Skousen eldest son, changed his last name, and no longer carries the Skousen name; we cannot blame him for that, our youngest son plans to change his last name also]

I rarely ever knew the Skousen family to be honest, in my experience with them.

Is this the Christian Thing to Do?

Honesty, must not be the basis of a Christ like life for many.

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Friday, March 20, 2009

Judge Carol Hackett Garagiola, Mr. Eidt went ahead with the hearing, Sue Hamiltion attended

Judge Hackett Garagiola made me go pro per in the court hearing, without attorney representation, my files, or anything to fall back on. I had the Motion of Stay at hand and Mr. Jentzens e-mail stating he withdrew as of March 7, 2009, but it was ignored – I was negated the right to locate another attorney, or preparation. I did not have my files, Mr. Jantzen has them, and Mr. Eidt went ahead with proceedings, per Judge Garagiola’s request - seems they spoke the night before.

Crime had been covered up for their peers and associates in the Livingston County legal system, which lead to backdoor deals, and cover up without my knowledge; leaving us as victims and another a victim - and stuck here for years - damaged; it was deflected today, as it has in the past -- I intend not to let them brush it under the rug - I am not going to let them forget and brush aside as they wish.

In case anyone wonders, I did call ADF and gave them a link to the blog. The blog has not been done without their knowledge; I mentioned how Mr. Jentzen had conducted himself in his representation of me these many months, and asked them the same question: “Is this is a Christian thing to Do?

From observation, for some it does not seem to appear it troubles them much, if it is the Christian thing to do, or not.

I wrote a letter to Ms. Hamilton, the receiver Mr. Skousen wanted to use as a hammer, to beat out concessions, when I returned home. She was pretty tough in the hearing, saying go along with her recommendations or be evicted -- her voice filling the room with the word "eviction", as she brushed aside the crime which was committed that caused the problem in the first place, her focus on Mr. Skousens welfare -- the relief he needed. Never addressing the needed relief we needed from being terrorized and harassed.

"The relief HE needed"- she spoke, she should ask our son about the relief he needs, about the things he overheard, about the abuse the county, it's legal people, who violated a child rights,- violations done to protect a friend of theirs- and took away two children's rights -- what relief was given the children from what they put him through, letting valuable years slip away -- ask my son Ms. Hamilton!

Bankruptcy for one she feels, relief for the other--- some groups need to hear the words spoken on that! callus- demeaning comments.

My son asked, when a question was asked, but never answered: "Why was she going to use the person who committed the crime to work for her, when she put her bid in a few months ago?" Referring to an extreme cost of repairs she was going to charge using her contacts. When I asked her to give me the names of the people she was planning on using, it was ignored.

At times a feeling over takes me and an inner voice cries out: "what if it was your child, what if it was your child!" "I wish you would go through the same!" "The same you inflict on others!"

Mr. Jentzen already said, it isn't. When I asked him what if it was your daughter? His response was "but it is not" --- (and maybe why he had no conscience when not notifying of a hearing or showing, forcing pro per with the court, with the document he demanded me to sign, --- --not a Christ like attitude. There maybe better people to represent the unborn child -- if one cannot respect life which is living, you mock the unborn child. Not even to have the decency to notify of a hearing, the legal rights of people-- proclaiming He believes in the rights of the unborn child-- Seems twisted, distorted to me.

The hearing was intimidating and I felt intimidated, and under duress- which I stated to them openly.

What a choice, go along, or evicted. Below is what I sent to her:

Ms. Hamilton,

There is an area I wanted to draw to your attention, as considerate as you were with Mr. Skousen’s money flow; allowing Mr. Skousen take a mortgage out to lower payments and to cover his expenses on repair of the roof. However for me, I have to take money from the little I make, to pay for interior repairs while having added expenses. You did not understand I trying to get this across to you. (but then maybe she did understand).

Mr. Skousen, is not out any money from his pocket – but I am to struggle, to go to collage, pay car repairs, insurance, bills for my sons car and insurance and I do cover some of his expenses, as well as the additional bills you requested, also to come up with interior home repairs from the little money my son and I have.

This and other reasons are why I need time to locate another attorney, than Mr. Jantzen who was a complete failure.( my personal opinion, through my experience)

-- debbie
It was unfair they forced a hearing, with no representation, no time to prepare myself -- and what Selective constitutional rights? Jentzen withdrew per March 7th, his withdraw stipulation, which he demanded I sign, stated HE wanted 7 days including a weekend, -- meaning four days, for me to find an attorney or go pro per in a hearing, with no time to prepare, that is what Jentzen who beat his chest procliming Constitutional rights stipulated -- beat his chest procliming Constitutional right, yet never notified of hearings or showed up for hearing he himslef scheduled-- then proclaims Constitutional rights! --is that the Christan man Jentzen? -- it doesn't seem the Christian thing to do.

Beware all born children-

“This is a tremendous victory for the most basic of our constitutional rights,” --Steven Jentzen. Mr. Jentzen seems twisted on his views on constitutional rights, when he never notifies people of hearing, never shows up. .

SIGN THIS, he demanded - even if his stipulation gave little rights!

--go along or evicted. -- intimidated and under duress. "I will sign for you, if you don't"

Is this the Christian Thing to Do?

“This is a tremendous victory for the most basic of our constitutional rights,”
Jentzen said in a statement obtained. “Pro-life speech should not be treated as second...

Was Mr. Jentzen concerned about our constitutional rights for legal consuel and representation?

At times it feels like it is crooked thing to do.........

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Thursday, March 19, 2009


We are working on putting up the the conversations with Mr. Samuel Skousen and Janice Skousen, my son and I are not computer savvy, it is a learning curve for us. Mr. Steven Jentzen withdrew on March 7, 2009. I was notified by e-mail on March 9,2008, but did not pick up the e-mail for a day or two.

In Mr. Jentzen withdrawal, he put in an order I find an ATTORNEY WITH 7 DAYs, or go pro per in a court hearing within days --- an all day court hearing! Isn't it nice he believes people, should have so little time to find representation, or prepare themselves and without their files!

Does not seem like a Christian thing to do, but it was not Christian defaulting in court either in October, when Mr. Jentzen failed to show up, or notify me of a hearing.

I received an letter from Mr. Jentzen today, saying if I did not sign his withdrawal he was coming to be my attorney. Mr. Jentzen is aware, I put a Motion of Stay in, to give time to locate a new attorney ---

I cannot sign what Jentzen drew up, and sent my own order of withdrawal without his stipulations. Maybe he feels people are mindless and should sign whatever is given to them!

I have notified Mr. Jentzen he withdrew as of the ninth and was no longer my attorney ( on the seventh he withdrew, however according to his e-mail). Mr. Jentzens tells of a call from the FOC, Mr. Eidt, perhaps?

It is beyond me, Judge Hackett- Garagiola (her husband works as newsman, in Michgian) can let women be so ganged up on! Fully knowing what is going on. There will be more on this on a later blog.

Maybe, more is going on in the Livingston County courts, and people are getting hurt, we were -- they were brutal and covered up wrongs and crimes of people associated with the courts.

Doesn't seem like a Christian thing to do.

Mr. Steven Jentzen, you know what was covered up, you know the crime it is, you know who was involved --- and the threats made to cover up -- and so do the courts!

“This is a tremendous victory for the most basic of our constitutional rights,” Jentzen said in a statement obtained. “Pro-life speech should not be treated as second..."

Beware born child -- selective some have selective constitutional rights.

seems better people could represent the unborn.

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Monday, March 16, 2009


Sunday, Monday and early on Tuesday, the website had been removed from a google search, after several complaints, the website has returned.

I Hired an Attorney associated with the Alliance Defense Fund pt. 2

Mr. Jentzen has withdrawn from the case.

"Is This the Christan Thing to Do?" suddenly has disappeared from a google search, it appeared under Mr. Jentzen's name, Sam Skousen's name and Janice Skousen's name, as well as the first page of a search under its title. - gone -

Nothing on this Blog is untruthful; everything is documented. It puzzles me, people wish to hide their activity. An unborn child is important - my son asked why his life has not been important to those individuals who promote a right to life? Why his life has been damaged, as cover-ups, abuse, misinformation, and at times lies were spread? And why people who claim values and honesty, at times, show little of this attribute.

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Monday, March 9, 2009

I Hired a Christian Attorney, who was involved in cases associated with Alliance Defense Fund

My requests were simple, put in a motion to enforce the divorced judgment to have the home repaired, stop Mr. Skousen’s request for the home to go into receivership, and stop Mr. Skousen request to revise the divorce agreement taking away pension and alimony agreements.

This is what happened. A motion went in, with ‘a paper’ missing the court required, I was told - Mr. Jentzen said, a paper was missing, one not required in Washtenaw County, but in Livingston County when filing a motion. Most motions put into court require a motion, twenty dollars, a notarized signature, a praecipe and proof of service.

What paper was missing? Was he unfamiliar with Livingston County courts procedures? According to the Chelsea Standard, Steven Jentzen represented Webster Twp. Supervisor Dean Fisher on alcohol-related and other charges, dismissed- a byline carried. The Livingston County Court Administrator Mary Ellen Nygren is quoted in the article – and the following quote also is in the article: “Washtenaw County Chief Assistant Prosecutor Joe Burke said Fishers attorney, Steven Jentzen, has filed a motion to dismiss those charges.”

However in my case, a hearing was held without notification being sent to me, or my attorney showing up in the court. The judges orders never were sent to me by my attorney. I only learned about the judges orders weeks later, when the receiver called. The receiver mailed me the judges orders, after her call arrived ----a hearing I never knew about! Even though my attorney, according the record on his bill, spoke with the receiver a day after he missed the court hearing. Missing a hearing, not showing up, one defaults!

Life has been brutal, and sadly at the hands of people one would not think could be as cruel, or as cruel as they were. It was a simple thing which has been asked -- let us have a home, a life --a chance.

Yes, Mr. Jentzen knew the reason our home had not gone up for sale after the divorce; a secret pack, an agreement, I had not learned about for years. An agreement which would outrage any mother - and one a mother is not going to forget easily - or put in the past.

I guess if one is looking for an attorney to read e-mails, one who sets a meeting time with you and place, but never arrives and goes somewhere else, one who requests you to e-mail them and set two dates to meet with you and your former spouse after missing a meeting with you, to work out an agreement, then never responds back, fails to notify of hearings, and fails to send judges orders, the Decemeber 22,2008 listing on the bill: read e-mail- 1/2 meeting -- I have no idea what or who 1/2 meeting was with or about- the e-mail was not more than a few sentences.

Then sends a bill-

Is it a Christian Thing to do?

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Missed hearing no enforcement of divorce order -- attorney no show

What is not stated on this bill is, on this date: on Oct. 9, 2008 Mr. Jentzen records a telephone call, and looking over documents, except on Oct. 9, 2008 Steven Jentzen had scheduled a hearing for a motion before Judge Carol Hackett - Garagiola at 3:00 p.m.

I had asked for a motion to enforce the divorce judgement and have Mr. Skousen repair our home, as ordered in the divorce agreement, and to set aside Mr. Skousen's request for a receiver. The receiver, Mr. Skousen stated, was his hammer to make me agree to changes and removal he wanted on pension rights and alimony agreements, done during the divorce agreement ten years ago. Janice, Mr. Skousen's new wife, wants our home for her brother-- but he could not afford the home; she wanted our home at a price which would leave my son and I homeless. Jan has callously stated to my son, there should be no obligation for us to have a home.

[ a recording of Mr. Skousen stating Janice Eudis Nielsen Skousen, brother wanted the home
Will be placed here.]

Janice's words stung my son, Sam Skousen and Janice Eudis Nielsen Skousen, live in the home left to Janice Skousen, when her husband Mr. Nielsen signed off on a paid home -giving the home to Janice, along with all the furnishing when they divorced. Yet, Janice wanted us homeless.

I never received notice of the hearing, which was scheduled, nor did Steven Jentzen show for the hearing in court. Mr. Jentzen, did not even mention the hearing to me during our phone conversation on Oct. 9, 2008.

The date put on the stamped court record for the hearing request was on Sept. 16, 2008.

Note on Mr. Jentzens bill what he was doing on Oct.9, 2008 when we should have been in court: --- Oct-09-08-- Work on documents, telephone to client………………..0.60 hrs. ---$135.00 ---SMJ--.

Ms. Hamilton called several weeks later, during her call I leaned a hearing was held and no one had shown up, only Ms. Hamiltion. Note the entry on Mr. Jentzen's bill of Oct. 10, 2008

Oct-10-08 Telephone call from Sue Hamilton re: receivership

Steven Jentzen, said in his conversations with the receiver, she seeming willing to 'work' with me on the home. ----- The receiver recommended my son and I leave the home immediately, the home not to be repaired and sold strangely at the price Janice Eudis Skousen wanted her brother to pay.

On December 19 2008, Steven Jentzen was to met me before the hearing, he never came to where we were to meet for our conference, he went somewhere else. Mr. Jentzen never answered the e-mails, per his request, to set a time with Mr. Skousen to meet to see if we could make an agreement- a request Mr. Jentzen made over the phone on December 19, 2008. -- Mr. Jentzen never answered the e-mails sent to him per his request, but did, according to his bill read them.

[Janice Skousen's acknowledgment regarding us being in the home, not of our own will
Recording will be placed here]

One wonders why we are still in the marital home? Seems some do not want the truth to come out on that ---

It is a dirty county here-- and moreover,

Is this the Christian thing to do ?---

This is a tremendous victory for the most basic of our constitutional rights,” Jentzen said in a statement obtained. “Pro-life speech should not be treated as second...

is this the constitutional thing to do?


They have a strange view of religion, and the pro family values mock human decency.

Mr. Skousen, with the assistance of legal help, has attempted to discredit. A former LDS church member came to my home and relayed a conservation he had with Mr. Skousen, were Mr. Skousen made the following statements, and a note was written by the former church member documenting the conversation he had with Mr. Samuel J. Skousen:

The note dated 7/28/99 reads:

"I had worked on Sam Skousen's car, he told me he really wanted to get the children. Sam told me he and his attorney David Morris,( a Mormon church member) was going to try and make people believe Debbie was insane. Then they would have her committed, and he would get his custody ",--- the former member signed his name on a document, to the events of his conversation with Mr. Skousen.

The county court personal have played into Mr. Skousen's scheme, many playing willingly along --

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A Copy of Mr. Steven Jentzen's Bill

Steven M. Jentzen, P.C.
106 South Washington Street
Ypsilanti, Mi 48197

March 5, 2009

File# 08-4110
Inv # 1489


Date ------Description ---------------Hours ----------Amount-----Lawyer

Aug-25 08 Conference with Client, …-- 1.80-----------405.00 -----SMJ
Telephone call from
Client re: letter

Aug-26-08 Review email re:---------- 0.20------------ 45.00 -------SMJ ------Recommendation

Aug-29 -08 Review documents,------- 0.70 -----------157.50 -------SMJ
tele telephone phone
Call to client,
preparation objection to

Sept 15-08 Telephone to client,-------- -1.30 -------------292.50-----SMJ
Prepare motion, etc.,
Telephone call to receiver

Sept 16-08 Telephone call from client ---0.30-------------- 67.50------SMJ
Re: motion, file, documents

Sept. 22-08 Review email re: discovery---0.30-----------67.50--------SMJ

Oct-02-08 Prepare request for documents, 1.00---------225.00-------SMJ
Follow up on motion-service

Oct-09-08 Work on documents, ---------- 0.60-------- 135.00---------SMJ
telephone to client

Oct-10-08 Telephone call from------------ 0.30--------- 67.50---------SMJ
Sue Hamilton
re: receivership
Oct-17-08 telephone call client------------ 0.30----------67.50---------SMJ
telephone call client

Oct-27-08 Review file-------------------- 0.30----------67.50----------SMJ
Telephone call to

Oct.29-08 Review agreement------------- 3.00-------- 675.00----------SMJ

Nov. 19-08 Review e-mail from----------- 0.20--------- 45.00----------SMJ

Dec-01-08 Review-e-mail-----------------0.20----------45.00----------SMJ
Basement cleaning

Dec.05-08 Review e-mails---------------- 0.20-----------45.00---------SMJ

Dec.12-08 Review e-mail re--------------- 0.20-----------45.00---------SMJ
Mr.Skousen and
Clean up

Dec 19-08 telephone call to---------------- 2.30----------517.50---------SMJ
Client, attempted

Dec-22-08 Review e-mail re:
½ hour meeting --------------------------0.30------------ 67.50---------SMJ

Dec-23-08 Review e-mail---------------- 0.30------------ 67.50---------SMJ

Jan-16-09 Review e-mail---------------- 0.20-------------67.50---------SMJ
Dates in July

Totals 14.20 3,195.00
25% Pre-Paid Discount to Client 798.75
Total Fees After Discount 2,396. 25


Sept-16-08 Motion fee 20.00
Nov. 14-08 mailing 1.74
Totals 21.74

Total Fee & Disbursements __________

Retainer applied 1,700.00
Interest Rate………………………………………………………………………………………….....7.0%
Interest Due………………………………………………………………………………………………$0.00

Balance Now Due 717.99